yep, doing harm to animals is one of the ultimate cruelties.
btw, i'd like to see some review of the performance difference between boards like Tyan Thunder K8W (S2885) and Tiger K8W (S2875).
So, it is apparent that the total memory capacity of Tiger boards are less, because of lesser RAM Slots. But, isn't the available bandwidth also is lesser. Because, Thunder has each processor accessing its own RAM bank at 6.4Gbps through dual-channel interface and the other processor's at 6.4Gbps hypertransport interface. But, keeping caches coherent may be a problem.
But, in Tiger, one processor has 6.4Gbps through dual-channel interface and the other through hypertransport. But, second processor accesses'll be through cache of first processor, meaning cache-coherency is very easy.
So, what about a NUMA review of the two types of designs? If its not possible under Windows, why not under Linux or maybe BSDs too??!!!
Re:#25
The article says that between the time the bodies were reported and the time authorities arrived, the bodies were removed.
It's obvious this isn't a bunch of kids who'll now remember what they've done and never do it again. It's a group of people (Age doesn't matter) who were covering up what they've done.
Almost as sick as what the pricks that did this make me feel. Do they have no conscience?
They'd be getting a bloody good beating if they did anything like this anywhere near me, but the bloody justice system would do me with assault and they'd get away with a slap on the wrist.
OMG!!! WTF are you thinking..."Killing animals is not wrong'!?!?!??! Also yes kids will be kids but shoving fireworks in a dog and KILLING them is not being a kid. ALso i would be willing to bet that these are not kids but teenagers that are over 18 who know full well what they did. I mean with the exception of getting them from someone or stealing them how would anyone younger get a hold of them.
No these kids should definately serve a nice LONG time in jail.
They're just animals not people. The kids should have to pay for the vet care of the older dog for not finishing killing it all the way but no other punishment is necessary. Klling animals is not wrong at all. Although you should eat them if you kill them.
Re:#25
Killing and torturing animals is not mischief, and in my opinion is certainly worthy of time in prison for a good long time.
It really upsets me to think there are people in this world, like you, who justify these peoples actions. And who's to say they will regret it? They only way to prevent it from happening is to bring them to terms with what they've done through the justice system. Too many sick fucks out there and I'd be happy to remove one if I ever saw them doing anything remotely like this - pick on someone their own size at least.
Re:#25
Granted, kids do some stupid things in life, I've done a lot of crap that I'm not proud of, but when you torture animals, that is serious. It's not just a kid breaking a window with a baseball or a rock, there are some deep rooted psychological issues that
can be harmful to the kid and to society later on down the road. That is one of the first things psychiatrists will ask if a child is acting in an antisocial way, "Has your child ever tortured or killed an animal?"
i agree it's not a nice thing to happen, but you are overreacting.
> why would a person do such a thing...
don't know why? never been a kid? never done anything bad?
i've had my own weird moments when i was younger, searching for adventures and fun. if i've not done something like this, its probably just because i was scared by dogs :P
think about it, kids are just kids :) they do stupid things often enough, and i'm sure they regret it later.
granted, this particular incident is a bit more drastic that your usual mischief. and i bet it left the kids quite scared by their own actions too (as someone said they will probably remember this forever), almost certainly they are now sorry and will hardly do it again... finding out who they were and making sure they feel sorry for their actions is a nice thing, but don't go over the board with it.
getting them "arrested and convicted" doesn't seem right to me, these are not some hardened criminals we're talking about (yet)
> "What comes around goes around."
> "I hope the dogs pull through and justice is served to the perps."
> "Even more just it would have been if the rabbit had attacked the guys and killed them in the explosion."
Statements like these are what trully makes me sad in this case. The goal of punisment should not be revenge, nor is there any kind of "justice" to restore in this case. I hope that the "criminals" will learn from this incident and not repeat such mistakes again. If you want any other kind of "justice" then you're just weird.
All this goes for the case that some kids did this... it's also quite possible that it was done by adults, probably drunken or just plain sick. Then it is really sad that such people exist, but we all know they exist even without this particular incident. So there's nothing new to go excited about in this case.
this is a rediculous and cowardous thing. what is wrong with our species that we do things like this for no good purpose.
i am appauled by murder of any living thing, the intentional killing of another thing. dogs are a much more honorable species it seems, they attack in defence and loyalty to their masters, or at the very lest in ignorance.
why would a person do such a thing to man's most loyal friend in the animal kindom. if this is how we treat out friends!
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skarthikeyan - Monday, July 5, 2004 - link
yep, doing harm to animals is one of the ultimate cruelties.btw, i'd like to see some review of the performance difference between boards like Tyan Thunder K8W (S2885) and Tiger K8W (S2875).
Their architecture are different it seems:
Tyan Thunder K8W (S2885):
Processor-0 -------> RAM bank1
|
|Hypertransport
|
Processor-1 --------> RAM bank2
Tyan K8W (S2875):
Processor-0 -------> RAM bank1
|
|Hypertransport
|
Processor-1
So, it is apparent that the total memory capacity of Tiger boards are less, because of lesser RAM Slots. But, isn't the available bandwidth also is lesser. Because, Thunder has each processor accessing its own RAM bank at 6.4Gbps through dual-channel interface and the other processor's at 6.4Gbps hypertransport interface. But, keeping caches coherent may be a problem.
But, in Tiger, one processor has 6.4Gbps through dual-channel interface and the other through hypertransport. But, second processor accesses'll be through cache of first processor, meaning cache-coherency is very easy.
So, what about a NUMA review of the two types of designs? If its not possible under Windows, why not under Linux or maybe BSDs too??!!!
ian_whthse - Monday, July 5, 2004 - link
Re:#25The article says that between the time the bodies were reported and the time authorities arrived, the bodies were removed.
It's obvious this isn't a bunch of kids who'll now remember what they've done and never do it again. It's a group of people (Age doesn't matter) who were covering up what they've done.
Anonymous - Monday, July 5, 2004 - link
Bugsbunny, you make me sick.Almost as sick as what the pricks that did this make me feel. Do they have no conscience?
They'd be getting a bloody good beating if they did anything like this anywhere near me, but the bloody justice system would do me with assault and they'd get away with a slap on the wrist.
Gamingphreek - Monday, July 5, 2004 - link
OMG!!! WTF are you thinking..."Killing animals is not wrong'!?!?!??! Also yes kids will be kids but shoving fireworks in a dog and KILLING them is not being a kid. ALso i would be willing to bet that these are not kids but teenagers that are over 18 who know full well what they did. I mean with the exception of getting them from someone or stealing them how would anyone younger get a hold of them.No these kids should definately serve a nice LONG time in jail.
-Kevin
Bugsbunny - Monday, July 5, 2004 - link
They're just animals not people. The kids should have to pay for the vet care of the older dog for not finishing killing it all the way but no other punishment is necessary. Klling animals is not wrong at all. Although you should eat them if you kill them.tfranzese - Monday, July 5, 2004 - link
Re:#25Killing and torturing animals is not mischief, and in my opinion is certainly worthy of time in prison for a good long time.
It really upsets me to think there are people in this world, like you, who justify these peoples actions. And who's to say they will regret it? They only way to prevent it from happening is to bring them to terms with what they've done through the justice system. Too many sick fucks out there and I'd be happy to remove one if I ever saw them doing anything remotely like this - pick on someone their own size at least.
YOGI - Monday, July 5, 2004 - link
Re:#25Granted, kids do some stupid things in life, I've done a lot of crap that I'm not proud of, but when you torture animals, that is serious. It's not just a kid breaking a window with a baseball or a rock, there are some deep rooted psychological issues that
can be harmful to the kid and to society later on down the road. That is one of the first things psychiatrists will ask if a child is acting in an antisocial way, "Has your child ever tortured or killed an animal?"
visual - Monday, July 5, 2004 - link
eeew... you people are weird.i agree it's not a nice thing to happen, but you are overreacting.
> why would a person do such a thing...
don't know why? never been a kid? never done anything bad?
i've had my own weird moments when i was younger, searching for adventures and fun. if i've not done something like this, its probably just because i was scared by dogs :P
think about it, kids are just kids :) they do stupid things often enough, and i'm sure they regret it later.
granted, this particular incident is a bit more drastic that your usual mischief. and i bet it left the kids quite scared by their own actions too (as someone said they will probably remember this forever), almost certainly they are now sorry and will hardly do it again... finding out who they were and making sure they feel sorry for their actions is a nice thing, but don't go over the board with it.
getting them "arrested and convicted" doesn't seem right to me, these are not some hardened criminals we're talking about (yet)
> "What comes around goes around."
> "I hope the dogs pull through and justice is served to the perps."
> "Even more just it would have been if the rabbit had attacked the guys and killed them in the explosion."
Statements like these are what trully makes me sad in this case. The goal of punisment should not be revenge, nor is there any kind of "justice" to restore in this case. I hope that the "criminals" will learn from this incident and not repeat such mistakes again. If you want any other kind of "justice" then you're just weird.
All this goes for the case that some kids did this... it's also quite possible that it was done by adults, probably drunken or just plain sick. Then it is really sad that such people exist, but we all know they exist even without this particular incident. So there's nothing new to go excited about in this case.
anshul - Monday, July 5, 2004 - link
agreed. horrible. unimaginable how people can be so.dan - Monday, July 5, 2004 - link
this is a rediculous and cowardous thing. what is wrong with our species that we do things like this for no good purpose.i am appauled by murder of any living thing, the intentional killing of another thing. dogs are a much more honorable species it seems, they attack in defence and loyalty to their masters, or at the very lest in ignorance.
why would a person do such a thing to man's most loyal friend in the animal kindom. if this is how we treat out friends!