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  • jjj - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Short term 3D might have a small price premium so it will be interesting to see how they price these.
  • Chaitanya - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    A little too late to market.
  • bill.rookard - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Perhaps, but if it has any downward pricing pressure on Samsung, it will help the average consumer.
  • Chaitanya - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    Atleast on 850 EVO series Samsung had brought pricing of their SSDs down to the point where SSDs from other manufacturers aren't just attractive enough.
  • barleyguy - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    The Crucial MX-300, which is essentially the same technology, should be to market much sooner. (Crucial and Micron are the same company.)
  • Ej24 - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Crucial already drastically undercuts Samsung in the consumer arena. Their MX series offers MLC nand at a price below Samsung (and most others) TLC nand (either 3d or planar). MLC is faster and generally has better endurance. I would expect the consumer version of these to continue the trend. However, I hope crucial still releases a consumer MLC drive. I just don't trust tlc after the 840 Evo fiasco.
  • linster - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    I still haven't figured out if the 840 fiasco was a general TLC issue or a Samsung specific issue.
  • Impulses - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    The 840 was pre-3D, the 850 seem really solid after months on the market, my 2x 1TB have been working alright as has my sister's 840 EVO post update... Did they ever release a fix for the non EVO 840 tho?
  • Impulses - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Talking about the EVOs obviously. Frankly the 840 issues, while not handled the best way possible, were still not as bad as many of the issues that have plagued every other OEM... And 3D NAND radically changed how TLC is handled anyway.
  • Glaring_Mistake - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    I'd say it is not specific to Samsung but at the same time an SSD using 2D TLC NAND does not have to suffer from read speed issues even at small litographies.

    For example the 19nm TLC NAND (same litography as 840 EVO) made by SanDisk does not seem to suffer from that issue.
    Haven't seen any sign that the 15nm TLC NAND made by SanDisk does either.

    However the 16nm TLC NAND by SK Hynix and the 16nm TLC NAND by Micron do.
  • Ariknowsbest - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    Maybe it's controller related, how well it can mask it.
  • Eden-K121D - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    why is this Nvme drive so slow
  • Zertzable - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    The specifications are for the Micron 1100 (SATA), not the Micron 2100 (PCIe/NVMe).
  • shabby - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    The chart has it labelled as m2 not sata. Anyhoo there's an m2 850 evo and its also as slow as the sata drive, just because its m2 doesn't mean it'll read/write at 2GBps, its all in the controller.
  • Brian_R170 - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    M.2 is the spec for the socket and SATA signals are part of the spec, so it is possible to be M.2 and SATA. M.2 SSDs can be SATA AHCI, PCIe AHCI, or PCIe NVMe.
  • Freakie - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    And to add to that, many motherboards ONLY support PCIe M.2 drives. If you look at the pictures in this article, the connector on the drive of the first picture has two notches in it while the drive in the 2nd picture only has 1. This is how you tell PCIe and SATA M.2 drives apart. Many people have been burned buying SATA M.2 drives for motherboards that only support PCIe and vice versa.
  • Magichands8 - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Yet another reason why I can't fathom why anyone would buy M.2 (unless for mobile). And the 2100 is coming as a double-sided M.2 that only reaches 1TB with 3D NAND? That 1100 better be damn cheap and that 2100 better be damn fast. The article does say that the 1100 comes in 2.5" form factor but if I'm going to be limited to 2TB and such slow speed then the price for it better blow everything else out of the water. Otherwise I'd skip being the early adopter and just get something more mature and already on the market.
  • Freakie - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Because unfortunately M.2 drives are cheaper than just straight PCIe add-in cards. And it isn't cost effective to RAID multiple SATA SSDs to try to reach the performance of PCIe NVM SSDs. If you want something that goes really fast, but don't have the money to get a top of the line PCIe add-in SSD, then M.2 drives are the way to go. I'm thinking about getting the 256GB or 512GB Samsung 950 Pro myself.

    Laptops are coming around to supporting the PCIe M.2 drives instead of the SATA ones which will help push prices down for PCIe drives since manufacturers can ship higher volumes which will just encourage more PCIe SSD adoption and fuel a cycle where SATA M.2 drives will be rare and that compatibility thing I mentioned will be an even smaller issue than it already is.
  • BurntMyBacon - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    @Freakie: "Because unfortunately M.2 drives are cheaper than just straight PCIe add-in cards."

    U.2 Drives would also fit this description if anyone made a consumer grade version. Intel's is enterprise grade at enterprise prices.

    @Freakie: "And it isn't cost effective to RAID multiple SATA SSDs to try to reach the performance of PCIe NVM SSDs."

    Even ignoring the cost of the SSDs, the RAID controllers available on consumer grade motherboards are generally incapable of matching high end NVMe drives. So yes, definitely not cost effective.

    It's too bad U.2 hasn't progressed as it is the logical successor to SATA on non-portable systems. Many more U.2 connectors can be placed per motherboard than M.2 sockets. Performance is exactly the same. Perhaps when motherboards come standard with more PCIe lanes, we'll see some more pickup.
  • Spunjji - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    "The Micron 1100 is a mainstream client SATA drive in M.2 and 2.5" form factors."

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